Tuesday, February 2, 2010

Jim Crow policing

Read the following editorial from Bob Herbert and tell me your opinion on what he is talking about. 

February 2, 2010


Op-Ed Columnist

Jim Crow Policing

By BOB HERBERT

The New York City Police Department needs to be restrained. The nonstop humiliation of young black and Hispanic New Yorkers, including children, by police officers who feel no obligation to treat them fairly or with any respect at all is an abomination. That many of the officers engaged in the mistreatment are black or Latino themselves is shameful.

Statistics will be out shortly about the total number of people who were stopped and frisked by the police in 2009. We already have the data for the first three-quarters of the year, and they are staggering. During that period, more than 450,000 people were stopped by the cops, an increase of 13 percent over the same period in 2008.

An overwhelming 84 percent of the stops in the first three-quarters of 2009 were of black or Hispanic New Yorkers. It is incredible how few of the stops yielded any law enforcement benefit. Contraband, which usually means drugs, was found in only 1.6 percent of the stops of black New Yorkers. For Hispanics, it was just 1.5 percent. For whites, who are stopped far less frequently, contraband was found 2.2 percent of the time.

The percentages of stops that yielded weapons were even smaller. Weapons were found on just 1.1 percent of the blacks stopped, 1.4 percent of the Hispanics, and 1.7 percent of the whites. Only about 6 percent of stops result in an arrest for any reason.

Rather than a legitimate crime-fighting tool, these stops are a despicable, racially oriented tool of harassment. And the police are using it at the increasingly enthusiastic direction of Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

There were more than a half-million stops in New York City in 2008, and when the final tally is in, we’ll find that the number only increased in 2009.

Not everyone who is stopped is frisked. When broken down by ethnic group, the percentages do not at first seem so wildly disproportionate. Some 59.4 percent of all Hispanics who were stopped were also frisked, as were 56.6 percent of blacks, and 46 percent of whites. But keep in mind, whites composed fewer than 16 percent of the people stopped in the first place.

These encounters with the police are degrading and often frightening, and the real number of people harassed is undoubtedly higher than the numbers reported by the police. Often the cops will stop, frisk and sometimes taunt people who are at their mercy, and then move on — without finding anything, making an arrest, or recording the encounter as they are supposed to.

Even the official reasons given by the police for the stops are laughably bogus. People are stopped for allegedly making “furtive movements,” for wearing clothes “commonly used in a crime,” and, of course, for the “suspicious bulge.” My wallet, my notebook and my cellphone would all apply.

The police say they also stop people for wearing “inappropriate attire for the season.” I saw a guy on the Upper West Side wearing shorts and sandals a couple weeks ago. That was certainly unusual attire for the middle of January, but it didn’t cross my mind that he should be accosted by the police.

The Center for Constitutional Rights has filed a class-action lawsuit against the city and the Police Department over the stops. Several plaintiffs detailed how their ordinary daily lives were interrupted by cops bent on harassment for no good reason. Lalit Carson was stopped while on a lunch break from his job as a teaching assistant at a charter school in the Bronx. Deon Dennis was stopped and searched while standing outside the apartment building in which he lives in Harlem. The police arrested him, allegedly because of an outstanding warrant. He was held for several hours then released. There was no outstanding warrant.

There are endless instances of this kind of madness. People going about their daily business, bothering no one, are menaced out of the blue by the police, forced to spread themselves face down in the street, or plaster themselves against a wall, or bend over the hood of a car, to be searched. People who object to the harassment are often threatened with arrest for disorderly conduct.


The Police Department insists that these stops of innocent people — which are unconstitutional, by the way — help fight crime. And they insist that the policy is not racist.


Paul Browne, the chief spokesman for Commissioner Kelly, described the stops as “life-saving.” And he has said repeatedly that the racial makeup of the people stopped and frisked is proportionally similar to the racial makeup of people committing crimes.

That is an amazingly specious argument. The fact that a certain percentage of criminals may be black or Hispanic is no reason for the police to harass individuals from those groups when there is no indication whatsoever that they have done anything wrong.

It’s time to put an end to Jim Crow policing in New York City.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/opinion/02herbert.html

19 comments:

  1. Well I do think it's true for the most part but seriously all together I think cops r usually jus bored driving their police cars around looking for situations that don't look right to them so they jus go around looking for dumd reasons to stop somebody so it looks like their doing their job when their really just wasting a lot of peoples time. Now I'm not saying that all cops are like this some cops actually care and do their job with a purpose and they really know what their doing. And seriously in my opinion I don't think it has to do with race I think it's all about the way some people act and present themselves because if a white guy was walking aroud looking suspicious wearing baggy clothes I'm sure the cops would stop him and same for blacks and Latinos so their you go that's what I think.

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  2. I think that some police men just stop people because they have nothing to do.I guess some days are slow and they just want something to do.Sometimes its because of racial situations its like they judge people which is wrong to me.People have different styles and people might perceive them in a wrong way.I think cops might have good reasons to stop someone because they must look suspisious but sometimes they are wrong and they question innocent people.I think it should be stopped or controlled to a certain point because not all people are up to bad things its just the way they are being judged.

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  3. My personal opinion on this article is that most police men usually try to fine people for the smallest thing just because some days dont really run as they would want them to.The police also stop people because they stereotype them by there looks and by their ethnicity as well.Not all of the cops are the same but for the most part theeir actions happen for this kind of reasons.

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  4. Fidencio Quintero JR.February 5, 2010 at 12:45 PM

    On own opinion is that I think that these type police officers should be punished very intensly.They cannot keep arresting and getting people that are inocent just because they want to.What surprised me more was that most of them are black or hispanic that are being arrested, although the whites have more on the percentage that do more bad things.

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  5. In my opinion any blind person thats being read this story can come to the conclusion that police officers in New York are discriminating against people based on the color of their skin. Also, I feel in my opinion some of this discrimination is also authority influenced. Meaning, the officers are using their position to intimidate minorities. There was a time when there was a discussion of banning affirmative action, but as we see it is still needed. It saddens me when minority officers discriminate aganist their own race to get higher recognition in the police force, otherwise they know they will be discriminated against if they don't put minorities on the chopping block.

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  6. inmy opinion i think that police oficers are being raisis to some of the people base on they color of sking or becasuse theyluck difrend that other people i also think that many people agris to the police oficer becasue they are raises but thers alot of people that realy think is not fear that pelice oficers are host stoping people with no reasin host to check their care or becasue they luck suspiusos

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  7. Its hard to imagine cops doing such things just because its racial but the thought that I cant walk down the street without the fear of being pulled to the side and checked and then being told that I have some sort of outstanding warrant really gets you thinking what if It starts happening here although it is highly unlikely it will Their is still the possibility it will.

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  8. Its hard cause you should be able to trust a police officer but certin actions like these are what give officers a bad name First of all punish the officers. Its hard to believe that they are doing their jobs when all the people they have arrested are a different race. I think the officers are be racist aganist others.

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  9. In my opinion, stereotyping is curropting the minds of police officers not only in New York but all over the U.S. I bet that police officers in Mexico do the same thing with white men and maybe the same thing if parts of Africa. It is just racial discrimination we face because of the white people that build the foundation of our society.

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  10. What Paul Browne said "Racial makeup of the people stopped and frisked is proportionally similar to the racial makeup of people committing crimes." If you stopped a equal amount from all the races the percentages the amount of crimes commited would be equaly spread out. Jim Crow policing isn't the main problem though, the fact that police have so much power and citizens have very little they can do when mistreated is the cause of the problem.

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  11. In my opinion officers are just being rasist against minorites just beause everyone has an idea that crimes are committed more by hispanics and african americans.i also think thay are taking advantage of thier title as a cop and just feel like they can do whatever and get away with it. Its not just in new york but im sure it happens all over the world.

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  12. i think that some police officers do abuse their authority and like humiliating some people. but i'm not saying all cops are like this,maybe some of them just really do think that minorities look suspicious and they pull them over subconsiously.

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  13. i dont think that the police officers stop people based on their skin color. i think that cops stop most people based on how they dress. i think a police officer would rather pull over and search a mexican dressed like a cholo than a mexican who isnt thugged out. same applies to the other races....

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  14. well for my opinion I think the police officers just stop someone by their lookings. sometimes they dont do the right thing by stoping them, but is because in some caises theirs nothing else to do, and they stop just whatever person to kind of pretend they're doing some work when they're not. that's discrimination, because the police thinks that they are a main authority in all men and women, and they think they can do what they want

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  15. for my opinion is that theirs being alot of discrimination by the part of the police because they are just being racist by stoping people by their looks and stuff. the jim craw laws are being desobey because they police officers sometimes are stoping people beause of theyre looks. and not doing well done they jobs.and they are judging people by their looks. but its not only in the United States. i think it happens everywhere

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  16. i agree with him. i think a cop is more likely to stop a mexican or a black guy than a white one. cops stop people based on their looks. they conclude that because they like baggy they are up to no good.

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  17. The fact that a certain percentage of crimes are commited by hispanics and blacks is no reason for the police to increasingly harass individuals from those groups.

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  18. In my opnion oficcers are being rasist but wat i really think is that officers are just stopping random people because they want their time to go by fast and they have nothing else to do but to be driving around thats why they waist innocent peoples time just because of theyre looks or because how their dressed they should really go around and look for people that do make crimes and they need to do their job right and dont be rasist. This happends all over the world.

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